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is there a chance the tubing distorted the sleeve on install?
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I have seen oil blow out from the engines due to improper ventilation! The
engines could go through 3-4 gallons of oil in 300 miles. Correct the
ventilation and maybe they use 1-2 quarts in 3,000 miles.
I was thinking that maybe it was a vent issue but I am glad you checked that
out already.
Check out my Jeep Cherokee
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No as it only goes against the flared collar which is designed to be ripped
off after installation if needed. Also it is leaking both sides the same,
with and without the speedy sleeve.
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According to my info, the D44 was the same in the XJs and full-size pickups, at least as far as the bearing and seal is concerned from 1980 to 1993. And the later ones (1993 to 1998) used the A-10 bearing. The seal was a different part number, but I couldn't get the specs on the actual size of that seal. I suspect it was the same size but maybe a little wider or they used a different style of sealing mechanism around the axle portion of the seal. Possibly to better stand heat from disc brakes?
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According to my sources, the A-10 bearing is a one-piece assembly comprised of the outer shell, cylindrical roller bearings and the outer shell. There is no cone. This assembly rides inside of the area that carries the seal and the Speedi-Sleeve would fit only under the seal area, not under the bearing.
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So by what you saying I have to make sure I don't get the A10 bearings as the axle was only made for the XJ's from 87 to 89.
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No. What I'm saying is that the A-10 bearing is the only bearing shown for the 44 from 1980 to 1998, regardless of model of Jeep. Therefore, that should be the bearing you are using. I posted in my second reply to you the "other" number an A-10 is known as. RSN 1579EF, I believe. I also sent you the inner and outer diameter specs for the A-10, which should come real close to the seal specs that you need to look for. If I remember correctly (don't have the previous posts handy), it sounded to me as if the seal you used (1.87" ID) was just slightly too large. That would hold grease until the axle was spinning and warmed up in the seal lip area. According to my info, the "bore" or Inside Diameter of the bearing is 1.5630", or smaller by about 3 tenths of an inch than the inside diameter of the seal you used. Measure your axle diameter. It should be a few thousandths less than 1.5630". The seal "relaxed" inside diameter (not installed) should be a couple tenths less, or around 1.35 to 1.40". That last is a rough guess based on the amount of stretching I've seen when I've installed similar seals. The grease seal should be a pretty tight fit over the Speedi-Sleeve or machined portion of the axle. Never loose or just barely touching.
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There was no sign of oil leaking past the seal between the axle and it, but was between the seal and the housing. The problem now also is it is getting bearing noise from the center diff bearings and or pinion. As that means resetting the diff and a lot more work. I have found a place nearer to where he lives, he lives more than hour away from me, to fit a full bearing kit. This place does all the Jeep dealers diff work too and said they have done many D44's although never for a XJ of course. But have given him the information you gave me that it is the same as the FSJ's so that should work out the problems I hope.
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Do you know the part number for the wheel bearing kit from Timken to suit his axle? Or better still, the full diff install kit he'll now need?
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a10 should work . they are all the same axles. the only difference is the retainer plates. I actually know it as a set 10 bearing kit that comes with the seal.
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Is Timken the install kit you fitted to mine along with the diff?
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Sorry for no response. I was away from my computer for a few days. If you still need the info let me know.
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Yes it would be great to have some part numbers to give him if you can get them.
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Here are the numbers from a "Carquest" catalog. I hope the numbers can be cross-referenced to your brands.
Application: Spicer 44-1HD 1980 to 1993
Outer Axle Bearing: A-10 (RSN1579EF)
Specs: Bore: (ID) 1.5630" OD: 2.876" Width: 1.3810"
Outer Axle Seal: 9912
Specs: Shaft size: 1.875" Housing Bore: 2.877" (OD: 2.872") Width: .470"
Inner Axle Seal: 481837
Specs: Shaft Size: 1.50" Housing Bore: 2.502" (OD: 2.506) Width: .375"
Differential: Bearing: 25590 (2)
Specs: Bore: 1.796" OD: 3.2650" Width" 1.0625"
Cup: 25523 (2)
Pinion: Inner Bearing: 31594
Specs: Bore: 1.3750" OD: 3.0000" Width: 1.1563"
Cup: 31520
Outer Bearing 02872
Specs: Bore: 1.1250" OD: 2.8750" Width: .8750"
Cup: 02820
Seal: 5778 (Optional Viton 5778V)
Specs: Shaft Size: 1.552 Housing Bore: 3.160" OD: 3.165" Width: .608
Redi-Sleeve #: 99155
Spicer 44-1HD Bearing Kit #: RA-28 (1980 to 1998)
Contains: Differential Bearings/Cups (2) 25590-25523
Inner Pinion Bearing & Cup (1 ea) 31594-31520
Outer Pinion Bearing & Cup (1 ea) 02872-02820
Pinion Seal 5778V
Pinion Nut, Gear Marking Compound, Brush, Threadlocker & Gasketmaker.
I included measurements if you need to cross any of these.
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Thanks mate for that.
Just looking through it, why is there a mention of inner axle seals as it doesn't have any unless this is for a front D44?
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I noticed that too, and have no idea. There is a separate listing for the front axle, which doesn't use the same bearings or seals at the wheel ends. The book lists an "inner" and "outer" seal for axles from 80 to 93 but a single (different) seal for 94 to 98. Confusing...
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That is really weird as the ones I fitted came with an extra set of smaller seals that I didn't know what to do with either? If I had fitted them it might have stopped the leaking problem but then how would the bearings be oiled??
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My thought exactly. Now... if we were dealing with sealed bearings it might make a difference. The pictures I see of the bearing show an open roller bearing so the seal should not be used. Any experts out there???
I once worked on an old International pickup that had grease fittings at each end of the rear axle. Evidently there was a a seal at the end of the tube as well as outside the bearing and the axle bearing had to be greased via the fittings.
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When I was building my rear D44, those seals came with my master install kit. Somewhere/somehow I got the impression that they were meant for front differentials as well. Needless to say I haven't had them in my rear axle for 5 years now so chances are we are right.
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Good to hear and didn't see any inside mine either when Ryan put mine together. Very strange they are included though, even here in a Aussie bearing kit?
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The way I did it in Marcus' axle is the right way. There is no inner seal. The oil in the diff needs to lube the axle bearings.
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Any idea why they always provide the inner seals then? Was there a earlier model D44 that did have inner seals then along with sealed bearings perhaps?
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