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#1 06-04-2015 10:01:38

dougie
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Registered: 02-03-2009
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Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

Hi I have a 96 Cherokee with only 83K miles on it. Getting it ready for inspection I discovered rust holes on the passenger side in front of and under the front seat. I pulled the seat and lifted the rug which was full of water. I can't tell where the water is coming from. The seat is dry and I saw no evidence of water on the carpet. I am afraid to look on the other side but expect I would find the same thing. This is a pampered Jeep and the window seals all look supple so where is the water coming from?

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#2 06-04-2015 10:02:29

moses
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Registered: 10-05-2008
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

Passenger side usually indicates A/C leak from under dash. Could be windshield as well. Or it could just be coming up from underneath, especially if it was coated with rustproofing, soundproofing or something underneath that has since cracked and let water in.

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#3 06-04-2015 10:03:19

evad
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Registered: 10-05-2008
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

Also check your antenna grommet.  I had a leak in my 87 XJ and that antenna grommet was not positioned properly!

Been using your a/c?
Has it rained recently?
Do you have a rack on top of the Jeep?
How does the headliner look?
Upper Door Seals maybe?
Inner Plastic Door Panels still sealing well?


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#4 06-04-2015 10:04:02

dougie
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

The antenna plastic thingy is cracked (the one in the fender). The grommet is usually down behind the fender, right? Yes, I do have a roof rack, but there are no water stains in the headliner which is in perfect shape. The AC does not work. Yes, it has been raining here a lot! But now that I have the carpet up it is not raining at all!

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#5 06-04-2015 10:04:36

evad
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

Check those inner door panels!!!
I usually take off the first panel and watch for leaks while in a car wash or garden hose.
Window sealing plastic kits (with double-sided tape) were recommended by my dealer parts man as an inexpensive fix!  ;-)
Make sure there are no gaps or folds at or near the bottom since water will find a path!


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#6 06-04-2015 10:05:47

breabsrip
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Registered: 02-13-2009
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

check to see if the drain for the A/C condenser drain is plugged; if it is, water drips into the passenger footwell.
    it can be unplugged easily enough by *gently* using an old coat-hanger to clear the crud accumulation out of it where it exits the firewall on the passenger side of the engine compartment.

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#7 06-04-2015 10:08:19

archie
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

My two cents, and although not one of the experts here I have experience yes! What is the possibility of the rear hatch leaking and it would run down from rear and puddle up in the lower parts of the pans? I just dealt with my rusty pans and I can tell ya although it looks sealed and we don't ride back there my rear hatch was misaligned from twisting and tweaking uni-body and believe it or not the tops of the front doors are outward just enough as well i had to run new rubber and still working on frame support. Sometimes the truck leaks and sometimes it is sealed. Don't laugh but yeah I would pamper mine after I played really hard with it. Mine is an 88 so everything leaks even windwing windows! If its not leaking or dripping then the fluids reservoirs are empty! If the cabin is sealed its not being USED! lol Just a thought! Rusty pans seem scarey (they did to me) but there is a support under each side that runs the length of the passenger section and under the seats so I didn't fall out of mine even in rough terrain! I had it really bad!

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#8 06-04-2015 10:16:37

dougie
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

Yeah, well, like I said before, the Cherokee does not go off-roading, has never been tweaked and I park it with the hatch down hill so if it was leaking the water wouldn't go forward into the very front seats.  People have been suggesting the AC but I don't use the AC (it doesn't work).  I am hoping it starts raining again so I can find exactly where it is coming in from.  So far the best suggestion I have seen is the antenna grommet and the windshield seal.  I still haven't ruled out the roof racks either because on my old '86 they leaked in a couple of places before I got smart and replaced all the rubber gizmos that have loosened up and cracked.

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#9 06-04-2015 10:32:37

archie
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

What about the heater core would that be the same as the A/C cause I know in some cars they drip and soak the front passenger sides of older 80s and 90s vehicles if they go out or leak. Maybe it happened over the last winter? We all use the heater everywhere I am sure.

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#10 06-04-2015 11:06:14

james
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

If you do not have a sun-roof, I am 100% sure the cabin vent drain is plugged.

let me explain.

the air intake for the cabin HVAC is in front of the windshield (where the windshield wipers appear from the hood-line).

this forms a cavity that the heater/AC/vent blower motor draws outside air from. this cavity has a small-ish hose that drains water (to keep it out of the cabin during rainstorms)

dead debris (leaves, bugs, etc.) collects in the bottom of this cavity and plugs the drain tube.

most dealers recommend using compressed air to blow the obstruction free (from below). I find it is worth while to remove wiper arms & the grill work, then manually clean the fresh air intake cavity.

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#11 06-04-2015 11:10:26

dougie
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

So that sounds like a good idea.  I didn't pay attention to the suggestion originally because my AC doesn't work and I was thinking it was just a condensation collector, but from what you are saying it actually serves to intercept rain and dump it through a drain tube.  It is easy to believe it might be overflowing into the cabin then, so I will do as you suggest as part of my investigation.

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#12 06-04-2015 11:12:48

raul
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Re: Wet carpet and floor with holes in it - 96 Cherokee

I was just battling this same problem....  I ended up pulling all the carpet and bedlined the thing because it was impossible to keep dry.
I checked the door panel, the antenna, ac compressor, and the vent hood and none of them were the culprit.  It turned out to be my windshield.  I guess the sun and elements worked its way through the rubber and allowed water in.

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